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		<title>By: College Education</title>
		<link>http://blog.ajchristian.org/2009/11/20/rethinking-post-racial/comment-page-1/#comment-9727</link>
		<dc:creator>College Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First up, awesome post! I&#039;ve got a little question nagging me, I really enjoy the layout of your blog and tried to install the same design on my Worpdress site. However, there is some kind of strange coding error in the footer. Do you have any hints, what version are you using? Please PM me on Twitter @EducationGuide or per e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First up, awesome post! I&#8217;ve got a little question nagging me, I really enjoy the layout of your blog and tried to install the same design on my Worpdress site. However, there is some kind of strange coding error in the footer. Do you have any hints, what version are you using? Please PM me on Twitter @EducationGuide or per e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Aymar Jean Christian</title>
		<link>http://blog.ajchristian.org/2009/11/20/rethinking-post-racial/comment-page-1/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Aymar Jean Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. And thanks for the book recommendation; that&#039;s why I love you!

I agree with everything you said, except &quot;instead of.&quot; I would offer &quot;alongside,&quot; maybe? I dunno. This is when my youth kicks in and I say I need to read more (it&#039;s also where the subtle generational difference kicks in as well, as you smartly pointed out). I have an inkling that there&#039;s a way today not to talk about other things &quot;instead of&quot; race, but to integrate issues more seamlessly. As always, historical precedents exist. We&#039;ll be having this conversation for many years!

Re: The expert class. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s as crazy as you think it sounds. By and large, people will be uninformed, I think. That&#039;s not a knock on people, it&#039;s just most don&#039;t have the time/energy to do what we do. It&#039;s why I think the news vs. entertainment argument is so silly. It&#039;s not like there was some magical time when people were really informed about issues. What to do with pervasive ignorance is a quandary though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. And thanks for the book recommendation; that&#8217;s why I love you!</p>
<p>I agree with everything you said, except &#8220;instead of.&#8221; I would offer &#8220;alongside,&#8221; maybe? I dunno. This is when my youth kicks in and I say I need to read more (it&#8217;s also where the subtle generational difference kicks in as well, as you smartly pointed out). I have an inkling that there&#8217;s a way today not to talk about other things &#8220;instead of&#8221; race, but to integrate issues more seamlessly. As always, historical precedents exist. We&#8217;ll be having this conversation for many years!</p>
<p>Re: The expert class. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as crazy as you think it sounds. By and large, people will be uninformed, I think. That&#8217;s not a knock on people, it&#8217;s just most don&#8217;t have the time/energy to do what we do. It&#8217;s why I think the news vs. entertainment argument is so silly. It&#8217;s not like there was some magical time when people were really informed about issues. What to do with pervasive ignorance is a quandary though.</p>
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		<title>By: MPG</title>
		<link>http://blog.ajchristian.org/2009/11/20/rethinking-post-racial/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>MPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to stop after this. To sum up: You advocate seeing problems as &quot;American&quot; or &quot;global&quot; instead of &quot;black.&quot; The problem is that these &quot;larger&quot; categories are not larger at all. They are actually smaller because to be cosmopolitan or American means not to be advocating for native-born nonwhites, immigrants, women, gays. Pulling out all those groups makes the circle much smaller. I&#039;m actually advocating centering the discourse ON the minoritized position. What if, for example, the politics of a Brokeback Mt. wasn&#039;t &quot;gay men are men too&quot; but rather &quot;the prevailing construction of manhood is damaging to children, women, and men&quot;?

I think the specific vulnerability of what I like to call &quot;targeted groups&quot; indicates the precarious position of even currently privileged groups. It seems that the only transformative politics would have to be based in centralizing the targeted group rather than making them the exceptional case. Have you ever read Agamben&#039;s State of Exception? He argues that the exceptional actions of government (those in which they suspend the normal rules restraining them) are the pure and fundamental expression of governmental power. Not exceptional but constitutive. That&#039;s how I feel about blackness, femininity, and queerness in America or globally. They&#039;re not exceptional; they&#039;re constitutive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to stop after this. To sum up: You advocate seeing problems as &#8220;American&#8221; or &#8220;global&#8221; instead of &#8220;black.&#8221; The problem is that these &#8220;larger&#8221; categories are not larger at all. They are actually smaller because to be cosmopolitan or American means not to be advocating for native-born nonwhites, immigrants, women, gays. Pulling out all those groups makes the circle much smaller. I&#8217;m actually advocating centering the discourse ON the minoritized position. What if, for example, the politics of a Brokeback Mt. wasn&#8217;t &#8220;gay men are men too&#8221; but rather &#8220;the prevailing construction of manhood is damaging to children, women, and men&#8221;?</p>
<p>I think the specific vulnerability of what I like to call &#8220;targeted groups&#8221; indicates the precarious position of even currently privileged groups. It seems that the only transformative politics would have to be based in centralizing the targeted group rather than making them the exceptional case. Have you ever read Agamben&#8217;s State of Exception? He argues that the exceptional actions of government (those in which they suspend the normal rules restraining them) are the pure and fundamental expression of governmental power. Not exceptional but constitutive. That&#8217;s how I feel about blackness, femininity, and queerness in America or globally. They&#8217;re not exceptional; they&#8217;re constitutive.</p>
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		<title>By: MPG</title>
		<link>http://blog.ajchristian.org/2009/11/20/rethinking-post-racial/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>MPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, stealthy! Well, Aymar, I suppose that the slight age difference between us is cause for my difference in approach. In the late 80s, the term &quot;offensive&quot; seemed to become the foundation for claims of racism, sexism, etc. Injustice was thrown out the window. From my vantage point, that&#039;s why causing offense seems like such a great sin to 80s babies, whereas social injustice seems actually undetectable, especially to people of the middle class.

I don&#039;t know how to speak to that. Even less to the 90s babies after your set. However, I am not convinced that inoffensiveness is what is called for. Rather, (and I know I&#039;m gonna be shot for saying this)... I think I&#039;d like something like a return to their being an expert class. It used to be that academics were political and cultural authorities, but as the academy opened up to white women and people of color (as well as to women&#039;s, ethnic, and sexuality studies) suddenly the knowledge produced in academe was of no use.

The fact is, that sociologists, historians, and cultural critics know some things about how inequality works in our society. But that knowledge is made to seem crazy by people who usually haven&#039;t spent a moment doing the work we have to do. So, I&#039;m sort of a battering ram on this stuff. All the years that folks were kept *out* of the academy because we &quot;didn&#039;t have the background&quot; for it... well, on race white folks have to show me that they&#039;ve got more than their opinion and personal experience. Otherwise, they&#039;re not qualified to speak.

I know, it sounds harsh. And it has never gone over very well with anyone I&#039;ve been forced to say it to. But the thing is, it doesn&#039;t say you can&#039;t speak *because* you&#039;re white. It says you can&#039;t speak until you do some work to get caught up to speed. I&#039;m not having the &quot;why white people can&#039;t say the N word&quot; conversation for the 500th time since 5th grade! Sorry, my white friend, but you&#039;re late to that party. I&#039;ve been there/done that.

Now, how do I have so many white friends :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, stealthy! Well, Aymar, I suppose that the slight age difference between us is cause for my difference in approach. In the late 80s, the term &#8220;offensive&#8221; seemed to become the foundation for claims of racism, sexism, etc. Injustice was thrown out the window. From my vantage point, that&#8217;s why causing offense seems like such a great sin to 80s babies, whereas social injustice seems actually undetectable, especially to people of the middle class.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how to speak to that. Even less to the 90s babies after your set. However, I am not convinced that inoffensiveness is what is called for. Rather, (and I know I&#8217;m gonna be shot for saying this)&#8230; I think I&#8217;d like something like a return to their being an expert class. It used to be that academics were political and cultural authorities, but as the academy opened up to white women and people of color (as well as to women&#8217;s, ethnic, and sexuality studies) suddenly the knowledge produced in academe was of no use.</p>
<p>The fact is, that sociologists, historians, and cultural critics know some things about how inequality works in our society. But that knowledge is made to seem crazy by people who usually haven&#8217;t spent a moment doing the work we have to do. So, I&#8217;m sort of a battering ram on this stuff. All the years that folks were kept *out* of the academy because we &#8220;didn&#8217;t have the background&#8221; for it&#8230; well, on race white folks have to show me that they&#8217;ve got more than their opinion and personal experience. Otherwise, they&#8217;re not qualified to speak.</p>
<p>I know, it sounds harsh. And it has never gone over very well with anyone I&#8217;ve been forced to say it to. But the thing is, it doesn&#8217;t say you can&#8217;t speak *because* you&#8217;re white. It says you can&#8217;t speak until you do some work to get caught up to speed. I&#8217;m not having the &#8220;why white people can&#8217;t say the N word&#8221; conversation for the 500th time since 5th grade! Sorry, my white friend, but you&#8217;re late to that party. I&#8217;ve been there/done that.</p>
<p>Now, how do I have so many white friends <img src='http://blog.ajchristian.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aymar Jean Christian</title>
		<link>http://blog.ajchristian.org/2009/11/20/rethinking-post-racial/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Aymar Jean Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strong point re: Obama Philadelphia speech. I guess I actually respect the affective aspects, and the rhetorical ones. I guess I&#039;m interested in this ability to talk about race in a way that offends no one but still talks about social inequality (a little bit, Obama didn&#039;t really do that obviously). I hear you that it politicizes nothing and calls no one to action, that much is true. But I suppose what&#039;s remarkable about it is it&#039;s so difficult today to say &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; about race that doesn&#039;t immediately cause 30-50% of the people listening to shut their ears.

That inability to actually have a more inclusive conversation might be because, well, race is divisive and people need to understand the stakes. A broader conversation might be politically neutering -- as in, it inspires no one to social justice. I think that&#039;s how it is most of the time and it&#039;s where the discontent with Obama comes from, as in he soothes angst rather than inspires action. That&#039;s a problem. &lt;em&gt;However&lt;/em&gt;, I still think there&#039;s something significant in a Obama-like conversation. And I&#039;m wondering if there are ways to &lt;em&gt;actually&lt;/em&gt; mobilize to real politics in it. I don&#039;t know who&#039;s doing it, and certainly there are historical guides (abolitionism, civil rights) but I&#039;m tempted to sit back and wonder if there isn&#039;t something about now that opens up new kinds of possibility. Because when we talk about the realities of race now, for some reason it does sound crazy to people as you say. So the logical thing is change how we talk about it. But I&#039;m not smart enough to come up with how that actually can be done. There&#039;ll probably be some historical catalyst that will show the way, if this is even a way to go.

(BTW, you didn&#039;t see this post because I didn&#039;t post it on Facebook/Twitter/anywhere when I wrote it. I just wanted to see if I actually had a clear idea and I wrote it out to see if it made any sense. But I&#039;m still unsure about the ideas, so I didn&#039;t want to blowhorn it!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strong point re: Obama Philadelphia speech. I guess I actually respect the affective aspects, and the rhetorical ones. I guess I&#8217;m interested in this ability to talk about race in a way that offends no one but still talks about social inequality (a little bit, Obama didn&#8217;t really do that obviously). I hear you that it politicizes nothing and calls no one to action, that much is true. But I suppose what&#8217;s remarkable about it is it&#8217;s so difficult today to say <em>anything</em> about race that doesn&#8217;t immediately cause 30-50% of the people listening to shut their ears.</p>
<p>That inability to actually have a more inclusive conversation might be because, well, race is divisive and people need to understand the stakes. A broader conversation might be politically neutering &#8212; as in, it inspires no one to social justice. I think that&#8217;s how it is most of the time and it&#8217;s where the discontent with Obama comes from, as in he soothes angst rather than inspires action. That&#8217;s a problem. <em>However</em>, I still think there&#8217;s something significant in a Obama-like conversation. And I&#8217;m wondering if there are ways to <em>actually</em> mobilize to real politics in it. I don&#8217;t know who&#8217;s doing it, and certainly there are historical guides (abolitionism, civil rights) but I&#8217;m tempted to sit back and wonder if there isn&#8217;t something about now that opens up new kinds of possibility. Because when we talk about the realities of race now, for some reason it does sound crazy to people as you say. So the logical thing is change how we talk about it. But I&#8217;m not smart enough to come up with how that actually can be done. There&#8217;ll probably be some historical catalyst that will show the way, if this is even a way to go.</p>
<p>(BTW, you didn&#8217;t see this post because I didn&#8217;t post it on Facebook/Twitter/anywhere when I wrote it. I just wanted to see if I actually had a clear idea and I wrote it out to see if it made any sense. But I&#8217;m still unsure about the ideas, so I didn&#8217;t want to blowhorn it!).</p>
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		<title>By: MPG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw your post-racial post that you link to in the Tyler Perry piece. May I say, a bit late, that black people have been putting race in conversation with other forms of difference and oppression since *at least* DuBois.... class, gender, colonialism, religion... you name it. It is the legacy of the Enlightenment that to talk about race (or to be a colonized nonwhite speaking) is to be deemed insane, provincial, and unreasonable. Therefore, those multi-pronged critiques have not been addressed, except in academic theory.

It&#039;s not so much that we need a new way of talking about race, it&#039;s that it has to be understood that to talk about race is not, on its face, crazy. It is a legitimate pursuit and, like all legitimate pursuits, complicated and multi-faceted. But one does not have to go past race, beyond it, or post-it to get to the complexity. The complexity is already in race, we&#039;ve just been taught that talking especially about blackness is a bull-ish exercise, and that&#039;s insane.

And, umm, Obama&#039;s Philadelphia race speech is a monstrosity. It speaks to and soothes so many constituencies that it does not hold together at all. It was an excellent piece of politicking, and it served its purpose. But it had no actual *content* -- that is to say, its aim was *affective* ... the act of giving the speech, in the not-at-all-angry way that he gave it *was* the only content of the speech for most of his audience, especially white folks. I dare you, ask one if they remember any *lines* from the speech, besides the ones that got looped by Fox about his grandmother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw your post-racial post that you link to in the Tyler Perry piece. May I say, a bit late, that black people have been putting race in conversation with other forms of difference and oppression since *at least* DuBois&#8230;. class, gender, colonialism, religion&#8230; you name it. It is the legacy of the Enlightenment that to talk about race (or to be a colonized nonwhite speaking) is to be deemed insane, provincial, and unreasonable. Therefore, those multi-pronged critiques have not been addressed, except in academic theory.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much that we need a new way of talking about race, it&#8217;s that it has to be understood that to talk about race is not, on its face, crazy. It is a legitimate pursuit and, like all legitimate pursuits, complicated and multi-faceted. But one does not have to go past race, beyond it, or post-it to get to the complexity. The complexity is already in race, we&#8217;ve just been taught that talking especially about blackness is a bull-ish exercise, and that&#8217;s insane.</p>
<p>And, umm, Obama&#8217;s Philadelphia race speech is a monstrosity. It speaks to and soothes so many constituencies that it does not hold together at all. It was an excellent piece of politicking, and it served its purpose. But it had no actual *content* &#8212; that is to say, its aim was *affective* &#8230; the act of giving the speech, in the not-at-all-angry way that he gave it *was* the only content of the speech for most of his audience, especially white folks. I dare you, ask one if they remember any *lines* from the speech, besides the ones that got looped by Fox about his grandmother.</p>
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		<title>By: Understanding the Tyler Perry Phenomenon &#171; visualinquiry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Understanding the Tyler Perry Phenomenon &#171; visualinquiry</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] films are primarily ways to talk about black progress and authenticity in a &#8220;post-racial&#8221; world, and they absorb all the baggage involved in that project. They are moral tales about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Understanding Tyler Perry, the Phenomenon &#171; Televisual</title>
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		<dc:creator>Understanding Tyler Perry, the Phenomenon &#171; Televisual</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] films are primarily ways to talk about black progress and authenticity in a &#8220;post-racial&#8221; world, and they absorb all the baggage involved in that project. They are moral tales about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Who Is Tyler Perry? Understanding a Phenomenon &#171; Televisual</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who Is Tyler Perry? Understanding a Phenomenon &#171; Televisual</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] films are primarily ways to talk about black progress and authenticity in a &#8220;post-racial&#8221; world, and they absorb all the baggage involved in that project. They are moral tales about [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Blind Side&#8221; Success: What If Sandra Bullock Starred In &#8220;Precious&#8221;? &#171; Televisual</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Racial Unity: As much as black (and white) people have been flocking to Precious to see how &#8220;we are not post-racial,&#8221; everyone else is seeing The Blind Side (dir. John Lee Hancock) to see how we can be. While [...]</description>
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