Comments on: Why Has Showtime Abandoned Gays? (Death of the “Gay Show,” Part II) http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/ Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:40:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: In Adult Content, Does Diversity Sell? « Televisual http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-396 In Adult Content, Does Diversity Sell? « Televisual Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:11:49 +0000 http://blog.ajchristian.org/?p=1726#comment-396 [...] made its mark by being the only network to show explicit gay content, and, while it’s largely abandoned that strategy, it still offers a strong slate of shows geared toward women, offering actresses like Edie Falco [...] [...] made its mark by being the only network to show explicit gay content, and, while it’s largely abandoned that strategy, it still offers a strong slate of shows geared toward women, offering actresses like Edie Falco [...]

]]> By: siddrick http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-395 siddrick Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:21:52 +0000 http://blog.ajchristian.org/?p=1726#comment-395 God Bless You God Bless You

]]> By: Aymar Jean Christian http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Aymar Jean Christian Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:38:12 +0000 http://blog.ajchristian.org/?p=1726#comment-394 True! True!

]]> By: List of Gay and Lesbian Web Series Up! « Televisual http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-393 List of Gay and Lesbian Web Series Up! « Televisual Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:57:05 +0000 http://blog.ajchristian.org/?p=1726#comment-393 [...] as such, and these series are looking to fill a void with the loss of explicitly gay shows like Showtime’s The L Word and Noah’s [...] [...] as such, and these series are looking to fill a void with the loss of explicitly gay shows like Showtime’s The L Word and Noah’s [...]

]]> By: notesofasexiststayathomefather http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-392 notesofasexiststayathomefather Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:47:37 +0000 http://blog.ajchristian.org/?p=1726#comment-392 LESBIAN DOUBLE STANDARD: This week we had in-laws over for dinner. Inspired by Chuck we made our own pizzas, including a goat cheese, roasted butternut squash, arugula, olive oil pie…yum! yum! Anyway, over dinner conversation my wife was telling Grandma & Grandpa about how we got a free subscription to Showtime, and that we’re recording ‘The L Word‘, a drama about lesbians. My wife observed: “How come we hear about women who are sick of men and start dating other women? But we never hear a man say, ‘I’m sick of women! I think I’ll start dating men!’” LESBIAN DOUBLE STANDARD: This week we had in-laws over for dinner. Inspired by Chuck we made our own pizzas, including a goat cheese, roasted butternut squash, arugula, olive oil pie…yum! yum! Anyway, over dinner conversation my wife was telling Grandma & Grandpa about how we got a free subscription to Showtime, and that we’re recording ‘The L Word‘, a drama about lesbians. My wife observed: “How come we hear about women who are sick of men and start dating other women? But we never hear a man say, ‘I’m sick of women! I think I’ll start dating men!’”

]]> By: Aymar Jean Christian http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Aymar Jean Christian Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:54:14 +0000 http://blog.ajchristian.org/?p=1726#comment-391 Good question! I think a show like <em>HawthoRNe</em> provides a good example, a show that's essentially a genre series (medical drama), but with a lead that's a little "different." Sci-fi is good at this, and I could imagine a doctor or lawyer show with a gay lead. Each episode would focus on a medical or legal problem, and the lead "just happens to be gay." Of course sexuality would -- and should! -- come up, but the point is that you would identify with the character for other reasons (they're empathetic, good at their jobs, fight for the little guy, etc.), like with Julianna Margulies in <em>The Good Wife</em> or Jill Scott in <em>No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency</em>: both shows address issues specific to their respective gender/race/class categories, but the show expands the story by fleshing them out as full characters. Good question! I think a show like HawthoRNe provides a good example, a show that’s essentially a genre series (medical drama), but with a lead that’s a little “different.” Sci-fi is good at this, and I could imagine a doctor or lawyer show with a gay lead. Each episode would focus on a medical or legal problem, and the lead “just happens to be gay.” Of course sexuality would — and should! — come up, but the point is that you would identify with the character for other reasons (they’re empathetic, good at their jobs, fight for the little guy, etc.), like with Julianna Margulies in The Good Wife or Jill Scott in No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency: both shows address issues specific to their respective gender/race/class categories, but the show expands the story by fleshing them out as full characters.

]]> By: Miggy http://blog.ajchristian.org/2010/01/19/why-has-showtime-abandoned-gays-death-of-the-gay-show-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Miggy Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:51:12 +0000 http://blog.ajchristian.org/?p=1726#comment-390 Hey, I've read both your posts on this subject and I think they're incredibly well done. The one question I was left with, and looking for your feedback on/ some enlightenment, is this: What does a show that "[has] gay characters as leads, but on shows about other things (other than their sexuality)" look like? Is it possible to have a show with a gay lead (as opposed to a bisexual lead) without making the lead's sexuality a big issue in the show? Hey,

I’ve read both your posts on this subject and I think they’re incredibly well done.

The one question I was left with, and looking for your feedback on/ some enlightenment, is this: What does a show that “[has] gay characters as leads, but on shows about other things (other than their sexuality)” look like? Is it possible to have a show with a gay lead (as opposed to a bisexual lead) without making the lead’s sexuality a big issue in the show?

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